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Old 02-04-2014, 09:09 PM
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Hey all, please let me know if im on the right track here. I just started researching a 3-4" lift for my 2012, but I keep reading about Bilsteins. Is it either a lift kit "or" a Bilstein leveling job, or do Bilsteins also come in lift kits?

And why would I choose one over the other?
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The Bilsteins are a level kit for the front end. You can run Bilsteins with your lift kit. As to why you would choose one over the other would be based solely on your needs. Do you need additional ground clearance or just a bit of travel? Maybe you like the look of a lift. A level is a great way to gain a little travel and some clearance with bigger wheels for not a lot of money. But maybe it's just not enough. You'll have to decide.
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You could add a Zone 1.5 body lift to those 5100's and get a 4" total lift. That is exactly what I decided, and putting in the BL this weekend.

A true suspension lift is always the best bet, but for me 5100's and 1.5BL will suit my needs without the higher costs.

Nothing wrong with using just the 5100's...
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Thanks for the input guys. My intention is to gain more ground clearance while off road during hunting season. I plan on increasing my tire size as well, so I'm trying to put together a package consisting of lift kit, tires, wheels. I'd like to stay as close to the current factory ride as possible.

It seems there's a lot more to consider than I thought. Has anyone put together a package similar to what I want? Please share the details if you have, and how did it work out for you.

Also, is the purpose of "leveling" simply to gain tire clearance?
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Some guys just don't like rake. For me it was clearance. I put taller tires on the truck almost immediately. I wanted 10 ply's to tow my trailer. I was out on a BLM road in the desert and the rain had left big ruts in the road. Every time I crossed one the fender would come down on the tire hard. Very unpleasant. So, I leveled and that cured it. I have no need for a big lift and big wheels. We don't get mud like you are used to here. In fact when in rains we actually get better traction. So, a large lift is not needed. Your needs may be quite different. Hope that helps.
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Im doing it for the same exact reasons. But where you travel may have different terrain and conditions than my areas. Plus with the set up i will be going with is also to fit my truck in the garage, so it doesn't sit in the driveway loaded with gear.

If your depending on more travel in your suspension, do a suspension lift. if your just looking for more clearance in the fenders for larger tires go with the bilsteins, and possibly add a body lift.

what size tire are you looking to go with?

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Thanks for the input guys. My intention is to gain more ground clearance while off road during hunting season. I plan on increasing my tire size as well, so I'm trying to put together a package consisting of lift kit, tires, wheels. I'd like to stay as close to the current factory ride as possible.

It seems there's a lot more to consider than I thought. Has anyone put together a package similar to what I want? Please share the details if you have, and how did it work out for you.

Also, is the purpose of "leveling" simply to gain tire clearance?
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Not certain of tire size yet, at least one size over stock, maybe two, I have to continue researching tire sizes.

My main intent is to install a more aggressive tread tire for all the mud and snow I deal with, but also gain a few more inches of clearance so the my running boards stop getting hung up and banged up when off road.

Great info so far guys, I'm starting to get a handle on this.
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I would say, go Bilstein level and then later if you want more you can always go to a 4 or 6 inch lift and reuse the Bilsteins. My thoughts for my truck are to get it only as high as necessary for function, not trying to build a monster truck. While I think they look cool jacked to the sky on big rubber it is just not something I want to live with on a daily driver.
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I agree on using the Bilsteins to level your ram should you plan to do a full lift in the future. This way you can re-use them if you decide to pull the trigger on the lift... But you can also do it in stages if $$$ is a concern.

Do the level first with Bilsteins (I recommend some rear spacers as well since they're cheap) and if you feel like you need more then save for the lift. I purchased a leveling kit made by Rough Country that came with 2.5" spacers for the front and 1.75" for the rear and Installed 35" tires and planned on doing a lift in the future but the change was dramatic!

After doing the Level and Rear spacers I no longer have any intention of lifting... If I went any higher I wouldn't be able to fit in my garage, under ground parking ect. I use my truck as a daily driver and for hunting all fall and as long as I pick my lines I haven't run into any issue's in the bush up here in northern BC with just my leveling kit and 35" Toyos.

I also noticed you're newer to the form, IF you haven't seen this thread written by Brandon It will blow your mind and answer questions that you might know know to even ask. http://ramforumz.com/showthread.php?t=159580
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4'' lift all the way. if you hunt you deff dont want your truck leveled... just aswell to lift it up ( you could add coil spacers along with the billsteins so it isnt levelled but lifting is the right way to do it)
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