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Old 02-25-2013, 12:19 AM
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I am purchasing a RV soon and need to find out what some things are. I have never owned a RV so any help will be appreciated.
I have a 2012 4x4 ram ST 4.7 V8. I do not have a trailer hitch but will be getting a class 4 with stabilizer. The Trailer I am looking at is...
Length= 27'10"
Width = 96"
Height= 10'6"
Hitch Dry Weight = 742
Axle Dry Weight = 4344
Total Dry Weight = 5086
Load Capacity = 2656
GVWR = 7742
I have no idea what these are, Can someone explain? Will my truck pull it?
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Some terms

Towing capacity: Engineered tow capacity of the truck.

GVWR: Maximum allowable weight for a fully loaded vehicle (or trailer)

Payload capacity: Calculated by subtracting the weight of the truck from the GVWR.

The Ram 1500 with a 4.7 engine has a max capacity of 6,500 lbs.

The max payload on the truck is around 1675 lbs.

The trailer you are looking at, if fully loaded (5086 + 2656 = 7742 lbs) will exceed the towing capacity (6,500 lbs) of the truck. Even if you only use 1/2 of the load capacity (1328 lbs) of the trailer, you will still exceed the max tow capacity of the truck.

The trailer tongue weight is also a concern. The dry tongue weight of 742 lbs is meaningless. What you need to look at is the wet (loaded) tongue weight which will probably be around 825-850 lbs. You now have to add this wet weight tongue + passenger weight + 1/2 tank of fuel weight + spare tire weight, + the actual trailer hitch itself and any other gear you carry in the truck and ensure that all this total does not exceed the truck's max payload.

As you can now probably see, your truck with the 4.7 engine does not have enough tow capacity nor does it have enough payload for the trailer you are looking at. You need to either look at a much smaller trailer or a truck with a higher tow and payload capacity...
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^ He is correct. 27 feet with a 4.7L is pushing it.. What is the brand of the trailer you are looking at?.. I will see if I can get my hands on the sales departments tow capacity book and see what size/ brands fall under your category. Gotta look at ultra-light trailers and hybrids.
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its a 2007 Trail-Bay TB-25RK
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You might want to try a different manufacturer that has the same set up that is lighter. I had a 2011 Jayco 26bh that had a GVW of 6200lbs and it was 30ft long. Dry weight was only 4600lbs. I am now moving up to a larger trailer and when looking around there were several manufactures that had the same floorplans but the weights were very different. So I went with the lightest I could find.

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You can tow a TT with your truck, but I agree with BCRAM & Canadian Hemi Pride, the trailer you are looking at would be too much for it. Another factor in evaluating your tow capacity is passengers & gear which will reduce your tow capacity. The max tow ratings assume a driver of 150 pounds with no passengers and no gear on board, so you also have to factor in drivers weight over 150 pounds as well as any pasengers and gear. Also you should consider it is not a particularly good idea to bump up against your trucks max tow capacity, rather you should allow some margin. How much depends on the typical terrain you travel on. I would say to be safe a TT with a GVWR of not more than 5000 pounds to be safe assuming your truck has a 6500 max tow capacity.
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I am getting a set of total load capacity air bags and a proper stabilizer hitch installed this spring. I have a 32 foot jayco with double sliders. She is one heavy girl but am only taking her on short distance pulls. I have the 5.7. It is supposed to do the job.
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I am getting a set of total load capacity air bags and a proper stabilizer hitch installed this spring. I have a 32 foot jayco with double sliders. She is one heavy girl but am only taking her on short distance pulls. I have the 5.7. It is supposed to do the job.
I would seriously look into getting different springs, not the TLC. the springs are rated 50% greater than stock, and easy to install, and cheaper. Just my .02

http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index....125&x=116&y=18
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I installed airlift 1000 airbags very inexpensive. Along with an equalizer hitch. This apparently is a great combination for my 2012 express to tow a 7000 pound 30' camper.
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Your new best friend is BCRAM. He truly has your best interest at heart. You need AT LEAST a 5.7Hemi with a 3.92 rear in a 1500 series to tow that weight with passengers and gear, and even then, you're fine on towing capacity but getting close to the limit on payload.

Also, if you are purchasing this trailer from a dealer, remember that they only get paid when you buy a trailer. They my not be the best place to ask, "is my truck ok to pull this trailer?" Most dealers will be reputable and honest, but when it's all over, it's up to you to do your homework and don't depend on anyone else. (which is what you are doing, so good job!)

Since your truck is a 2012 (New) changing trucks may not be practical, but for the safety of yourself and your family, you should consider a pop up camper or other type of ultra lite.

This subject has been covered with some good links here:
http://www.ramforumz.com/showthread.php?t=133835&page=3
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