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Old 11-20-2012, 10:34 AM
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What's really going to be interesting is if this does become a common problem, watching how fast any small upgrade or mod is going to effect warranty work.
I can only speak for myself as a dealership technician. Unless I know someone was really running their engine ragged and abusing it, I wouldn't say a word to Chrysler about mods like a tuner, headers or even a mild cam.
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Yea I actually don't know any techs who actually tattle to chrysler about tuners, intakes, or anything. unfortunately my service manager is a dick and likes to make peoples lives hard sometimes. I'll spend chryslers money any chance I get.

But it is getting harder to hide mods on diesel rams now since they have a 3 page form you have to fill out and list every single aftermarket part on the truck. You even have to tell chrysler if there are stickers on the windows from aftermarket performance companies...stupid.
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i wouldn't expect a tech to "tattle" on mods, but i wouldn't expect them to loose their jobs either. i am lucky, the dealership i use are mod friendly, and always put everything through on warranty, with in reason. that being said, i have also seen some customers that even god can't make happpy, those people generally good service, but no blind eyes.
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I haven't heard about this as of yet. When did this come about and who did it come from?
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Timing chain failure on the Dodge Challenger
I have been finding many reports of the timing chain breaking on the Dodge Challenger, mostly in the 5.7L Hemi engines. The timing chain breaks in most reported instances around the 35K-40K mile range.

Once the timing chain breaks, the end result is usually the valves smacking the pistons which bend the valves, damages the pistons and leads to catastrophic engine failure. This often requires a new long block.

How many of you have had the timing chain break? How many miles on the car when when it happened? and what was your experience in getting it repaired?

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Known instances of the timing chain breaking on the 5.7L Dodge Challenger just in this forum alone in the past few months:

1. 06/27/2011 -- mileage not mentioned -- ... come to find out the timing chain broke ...

2. 07/19/2011 -- 85,000 miles -- ... and the timing chain broke...

3. 09/27/2011 -- 33,385 miles -- 2009 R/T Motor Broke

4. 11/23/2011 -- 38,000 miles -- Club member's car. Broken timing chain. Car in shop for over two months.

5. 12/07/2011 -- 34,000 miles -- I found this thread the hard way...

6. 12/19/2011 -- 22,600 miles -- 2010 Challenger - Timing Chain Breaks...

7. 01/21/2012 -- 60,000 miles -- Engine went..........

8. 02/02/2012 -- 38,000 miles -- 2009 Challenger R/T lost a second motor .. (Second occurrence. See #3 above. 4,000 miles on new motor).

9. 03/08/2012 -- 50,000 miles -- BLOWN ENGINE 50,000 miles

10. 03/23/2012 -- 14,000 miles -- ... my timing chain snapped

11. 04/04/2012 -- 53,500 miles -- My timing chain just broke today ...

12. 04/16/2012 -- 46,000 miles -- Mine is in the shop with a broken timing chain...

13. 04/27/2012 -- 31,000 miles -- My chain broke back in December of 2011 ...

14. 05/22/2012 -- 37,000 miles -- Here's another 2010 Auto R/T with a broken timing chain! ...

15. 06/13/2012 -- 40,257 miles -- I too have a broken timing chain ...

16. 06/23/2012 -- 38,485 miles -- Guess I can be added to the list ...

17. 06/26/2012 -- 38,500 miles -- Just happened last Saturday ...

18. 08/02/2012 -- 59,134 miles -- ... all of a sudden Bam the engine shuts down

19. 08/03/2012 -- 38,000 miles -- I had this happen at 38000 miles, 2010 R/T Auto

20. 08/10/2012 -- 59,300 miles -- ... timing chain broke again. (Third occurrence. See #3 and #8 above. 16,000 miles on new motor).

21. 08/10/2012 -- 63,000 miles -- ... timing chain broke cruising at 70mph on the highway

22. 09/03/2012 -- 40,000 miles -- ... while driving to dallas my timing chain broke

23. 09/11/2012 -- 24,000 miles -- Welp - chalk up another one ... (first 2011 to be reported here)

24. 09/21/2012 -- 31,100 miles -- This just happened a few days ago ...

25. 10/10/2012 -- 42,559 miles -- Well it's looking like I'm the latest timing chain victim ...

26. 10/24/2012 -- 65,000 miles -- ... driving on the highway 65MPH and "Pop goes to weasel"

27. 11/18/2012 -- 40,000 miles -- Mine just broke...2010 mopar 10, no mods, auto ... (first to break not at highway speeds)

28. 11/19/2012 -- 39,000 miles -- just got another 2010 with 39000 in today ...

The things in common when the timing chain breaks so far are:

1. MDS is activated (auto trans., so 6-speed are excluded)
2. Traveling at freeway speeds
3. 2009-2011 model years affected so far.
4. Limited to the 5.7L motor so far
5. Dodge Challenger only

Things ruled out thus far:

A. 6-speed manual transmissions not affected
B. Other 5.7L vehicles not affected, i.e., Charger, 300, Ram truck
C. New tensioner (white color) has also failed (see #8 on list of failures)
D. New crate motor has also failed (see #3 and #8 on list of failures)
E. Both stock and mod cars affected
F. Both stock tune and Predator tune (with MDS turned on) affected
G. All oil change intervals affected, i.e., 3,000 miles, 5,000 miles, etc.
H. All types of oil affected, i.e., both synthetic and conventional oil

Hopefully this helps you guys.
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That is an interesting tid-bit about the MDS.
I thought the same thing when I read this, it seems plausible as a possible culprit. Why only the challanger
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Totally unsupported Brad theory -

The Chally is the lightest weight auto with a 5.7 so is most likely to switch into MDS mode sooner and stay in longer.
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The Chally is the lightest weight auto with a 5.7 so is most likely to switch into MDS mode sooner and stay in longer.
Well that bit of logic actually makes sense. The MDS mode does cause some low level vibs which could cause slop in the the timing chain. So glad I have mine turned off thanks to Super Chips
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Just the post I wanted to read after signing papers for a new 2012 Hemi. Haven't even taken delivery yet, so I guess no need to get too worried with a full warranty in effect, but still not a post I wanted to stumble across when searching a totally unrelated topic. Geez.....

Hopefully for everyones sake a rumour that proves to have no basis. I'm not really worried, but still didn't enjoy the reading.....
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