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#1 ·
According to my dealer I am at D1. Anyone know what exactly that means? I emailed CS on tuesday and they sent me a VIN. My order was placed 7/5 for a CC sport 2wd, no air ride.

Has anyone progressed past D1 yet?
 
#6,029 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by rcharlie
Hello SPP,
ETA to dealer was for yesterday. Do you see another updated date? Thanks

rcharlie
  • <LI itxtNodeId="194" itxtHarvested="0"><LI itxtNodeId="298" itxtHarvested="0">VON/VIN: ES360625 <LI itxtNodeId="297" itxtHarvested="0">Status: KZ <LI itxtNodeId="296" itxtHarvested="0">Est Build: 5/2/2014 <LI itxtNodeId="295" itxtHarvested="0">Est Ship: 5/4/2014
  • Currently: At final rail destination, waiting to be delivered to dealer

I see the 11th but things are a bit weird for island bound trucks. It's in Kent, WA right now and vehicles typically get trucked from their to the island or the dealer. I still see rail movements on the schedule which typically doesn't happen between Kent and the island.

Hi SPP,
It is not going to the island it is going to Langley which is just across the border. Is there another train between Kent and the dealer? The dealer said it typically takes 5-7 days to dealership and it is quicker to come from Kent rather than Anaccis Island.
 
#6,030 ·
The Dealerships & therefore a Ram 1500 buyer can still submit an order for a 2014 Ram 1500

Fleet orders for 2014 Ram 1500s, multi vehicle orders, for Public & Civil Service vehicles, & companies like Hertz, Avis, Enterprise, have to have their orders in by June 13, 2014
* Fleet order dates may change, but not likely
 
#6,031 ·
Anaccis Island may still be suffering from the most recent strike by the Teamsters
They likely need to get all of the vehicles that have been sitting there off the Island
There was no place to off load vehicles coming in from Foreign countries
 
#6,034 ·
SPP,

Can you shed some light on the logistics to West Virginia? I've gathered from reading previous posts that, although mine is scheduled to be build on 6/5/2014 with an estimated ship date of 6/7/2014, I shouldn't expect it to be shipped on 6/7. I've got a trip coming up and I'm wondering if there is a chance it will be in WV before I leave.

Thanks for any insight.
 
#6,040 ·
Or I'll just sneak them in now...

Tuesday, 6/4/2014

Reminder, I am off next Friday so no updates on 6/13.

frogfoo
  • VON/VIN: ES300798
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 3/15/2014
  • Est Ship: 3/17/2014
  • Currently: Truck Shuttle (apparently being driven from Washington State to Vancouver via Maine...)

laramie2014
  • VON/VIN: ES329265
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 4/3/2014
  • Est Ship: 4/4/2014
  • Currently: At final rail destination, waiting to be delivered to dealer

Tupelo
  • VON/VIN: ES354357
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 4/28/2014
  • Est Ship: 4/29/2014
  • Currently: Awaiting Shipment (Ontario)

Dovetailwilly
  • VON/VIN: ES355716
  • Status: JB (Body Vendor)
  • Est Build: 5/1/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/2/2014

Gleb
  • VON/VIN: ES376969
  • Status: I (Inspection)
  • Est Build: 5/17/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/19/2014

Texan Ram
  • VON/VIN: 31525360
  • Status: ?

rcharlie
  • VON/VIN: ES360625
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/2/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/4/2014
  • Currently: At final rail destination, waiting to be delivered to dealer

jgreer902
  • VON/VIN: EG233679
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: At final rail destination, waiting to be delivered to dealer

DrX
  • VON/VIN: EG269943
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/9/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/12/2014
  • Currently: On truck to dealer

TTFD 753
  • VON/VIN: ES381493
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 6/17/2014
  • Est Ship: 6/18/2014

shawnw17 (2)
  • VON/VIN: 31013183
  • Status: ?
  • Est Build: ?
  • Est Ship: ?

bigtruck72
  • VON/VIN: ES375224
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/12/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/13/2014
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

Sportsguy
  • VON/VIN: ES370595
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/6/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/8/2014
  • Currently: Awaiting Shipment

Oiler
  • VON/VIN: ES370605
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/5/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/7/2014
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

sbidouxv8
  • VON/VIN: ES371370
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/9/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/10/2014
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment (Ontario)

RSG
  • VON/VIN: ES371015
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/9/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/10/2014
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

rpr
  • VON/VIN: ES363773
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/9/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/10/2014
  • Currently: Truck Shuttle

whitetrashmo
  • VON/VIN: EG277512
  • Status: I (Inspection, just inspection at this point)
  • Est Build: 5/19/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/20/2014

TXWagon
  • VON/VIN: EG274544
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/16/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/17/2014
  • Currently: En Route (Mexico)

Ryan40601
  • VON/VIN: ES370502
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/5/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/7/2014
  • Currently: At final rail destination, waiting to be delivered to dealer

Fishwrestler
  • VON/VIN: ES371009
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/5/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/7/2014
  • Currently: Delivered

Ramirez
  • VON/VIN: ES371745
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/15/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/17/2014
  • Currently: Awaiting Shipment (diff yard)

Crash
  • VON/VIN: ES304020
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/17/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/19/2014
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

TruckeeT2
  • VON/VIN: EG284488
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/20/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/20/2014
  • Currently: En Route (Pennsylvania)

delon
  • VON/VIN: ES387119
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/23/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/24/2014
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

Orion422
  • VON/VIN: EG279146
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 6/5/2014
  • Est Ship: 6/6/2014

Touchdownrun
  • VON/VIN: ES363748
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: Delivered

wyohunter
  • VON/VIN: EG274284
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/15/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/16/2014
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

unger
  • VON/VIN: EG275645
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/12/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/13/2014
  • Currently: On truck to dealer

haeley
  • VON/VIN: ES389598
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/27/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/28/2014
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

mountainbike
  • VON/VIN: ES376317
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/12/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/14/2014
  • Currently: On truck to dealer

naztruck
  • VON/VIN: ES364059
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: At final rail destination, waiting to be delivered to dealer

DRSmart
  • VON/VIN: EG281298
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/22/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/23/2014
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

alexram
  • VON/VIN: ES376323
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/14/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/15/2014
  • Currently: On truck to dealer

Eddy88
  • VON/VIN: ES355994
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: At final rail destination, waiting to be delivered to dealer

mportiz77
  • VON/VIN: ES379160
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/22/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/23/2014
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

r0cKET
  • VON/VIN: ES357527
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

metalmax
  • VON/VIN: ES387232
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/24/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/27/2014
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

epiphysis
  • VON/VIN: ES370586
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: Awaiting Shipment

laron50
  • VON/VIN: EG286569
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/20/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/21/2014
  • Currently: En Route (Pennsylvania)

Gazounne
  • VON/VIN: ES382173
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/21/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/22/2014
  • Currently: Truck Shuttle

hankhall
  • VON/VIN: ES311700
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: Awaiting Shipment (may want to contact your dealer to get the regional rep involved).

Eco14
  • VON/VIN: ES390226
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/31/2014
  • Est Ship: 6/1/2014
  • Currently: Awaiting Shipment

jc55
  • VON/VIN: ES395488
  • Status: F (Paint)
  • Est Build: 6/2/2014
  • Est Ship: 6/3/2014

Dais98
  • VON/VIN: ES389750
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/28/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/29/2014
  • Currently: Awaiting Shipment

adc27
  • VON/VIN: ES376956
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: At final rail destination, waiting to be delivered to dealer

sfraser
  • VON/VIN: ES382180
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: Awaiting Shipment

fxitagntoni
  • VON/VIN: ES389947
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/21/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/22/2014
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

blackbird2014
  • VON/VIN: ES390889
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/30/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/31/2014
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

jeffjcalweb
  • VON/VIN: ES370495
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: Awaiting Shipment

demoic2020
  • VON/VIN: ES366047
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: En Route (Michigan)

converted1
  • VON/VIN: ES345974
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: Truck Shuttle

whizzer
  • VON/VIN: ES403325
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 6/12/2014
  • Est Ship: 6/14/2014

diesel997
  • VON/VIN: EG288715
  • Status: I (Inspection)
  • Est Build: 5/27/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/29/2014

CajunEcoDiesel
  • VON/VIN: ES387287
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: En Route (Louisiana)

kevinhtre
  • VON/VIN: ES403314
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 6/10/2014
  • Est Ship: 6/12/2014

mushavitt
  • VON/VIN: ES355745
  • Status: JB (Body Vendor)

Buffalobill
  • VON/VIN: ES395691
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 6/6/2014
  • Est Ship: 6/7/2014

eddie13
  • VON/VIN: ES389920
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/28/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/29/2014
  • Currently: Awaiting Shipment

toddphilly
  • VON/VIN: ES402327
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 6/12/2014
  • Est Ship: 6/14/2014

Dawgnut
  • VON/VIN: ES395880
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 6/5/2014
  • Est Ship: 6/7/2014

Ram15004me
  • VON/VIN: ES371815
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: Awaiting Shipment

RAMsterdam
  • VON/VIN: ES355766
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: En Route (New York)

dbuccalo
  • VON/VIN: ES403335
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 6/13/2014
  • Est Ship: 6/14/2014

GearJerker
  • VON/VIN: ES396370
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 6/10/2014
  • Est Ship: 6/12/2014

evam2014
  • VON/VIN: ES371372
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: Truck Shuttle

Mayehem
  • VON/VIN: 31485668
  • Status: ?

talltxn1970
  • VON/VIN: 30856785
  • Status: ?

discord1
  • VON/VIN: ES387283
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

DeltaD
  • VON/VIN: ES376826
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

Saville
  • VON/VIN: 31519608
  • Status: ?

w305920
  • VON/VIN: EG265027
  • Status: KZ
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

Dogbite
  • VON/VIN: ES390193
  • Status: G (Trim)
  • Est Build: 6/2/2014
  • Est Ship: 6/3/2014

Somerdise
  • VON/VIN: ES390193
  • Status: D1
  • Est Build: 6/10/2014
  • Est Ship: 6/13/2014

Standard disclaimers apply
 
#6,044 ·
Alright, Q&A time...



Typically another yard to be better positioned to ship. Once it heads to your dealer, you will see "On truck to dealer". My guess is it his headed to Brampton then to your local dealer. I could be wrong :)

2nd day "on truck to dealer"?? Must be a very slow truck considering that it can't be more than a few miles from the rail yard to the dealer.
Sometimes they have a lot of "microstops" where they drop one or two vehicles off then move on. It can take awhile sometimes.

Hey spp, a couple of quick questions, if you don't mind. Nothing urgent, just curious.

- How much do the build dates vary? Mine is scheduled over Friday the 13th. :eek:

- Does the destination location, I.E. west coast vs east coast, affect the shipping time?

Thanks again for all your work.
1. Build dates are usually that day to 48 hours later on the worst case I've seen.

2. Yes. Depending on the location, your vehicle may have to be moved a few times to get it to a rail yard that has a train going your direction. This is preliminary but it looks like you will ship from the plant to Chicago then to the west coast. However, reality may differ from theory once it is built.

I really need to find that massive shipping post and link it to my signature.
 
#6,043 ·
Hey spp, a couple of quick questions, if you don't mind. Nothing urgent, just curious.

- How much do the build dates vary? Mine is scheduled over Friday the 13th. :eek:

- Does the destination location, I.E. west coast vs east coast, affect the shipping time?

Thanks again for all your work.
 
#6,050 ·
Good morning SPP. My dealer just sent me an email:

"Just a little update, your truck is at the Texas border.
The system has it scheduled to arrive around the beginning of July. "

Is my new baby on the move?

Thanks
Dave
 
#6,057 ·
Not yet. Soon! (Easy to misread that status as it shows "Future - Interchange Eagle Pass" right below the current staged status.

SPP:

Now that I'm finally moving ("Truck Shuttle"), is it possible to get a more realistic updated ETA?

VON/VIN: ES363773

Thanks as always, you're truly performing a great service here!
Not yet. It still shows the 6/10 date.

Does it usually stay in F (paint) multiple days ?
Only if it is a weekend or I futz a status. You are KZ, awaiting shipment.

SPP

please take my truck off the list. It is at the dealer and I will be picking it up on Sunday. Thank you again for all tm he work you do for this forum.

Regards,
Robert
Awesome! Pics!

Great info, wish I could have the same level of info while in Inspection Hell.
I wish I could tell you more. No QA holds are left so it's purely the inspection. I will be writing up what I know about inspection and the whole QA check stuff soon.
 
#6,054 ·
Sorry SPP. I should have added the S/N

Good morning SPP. My dealer just sent me an email:

"Just a little update, your truck is at the Texas border.
The system has it scheduled to arrive around the beginning of July. "

Is my new baby on the move?

  • VON/VIN: EG281298
  • Status: KZ
  • Est Build: 5/22/2014
  • Est Ship: 5/23/2014
  • Currently: Staged for Shipment

Thanks
Dave
 
#6,055 ·
Reposting this for clarity along with more information

Everything You Wanted to Know About Vehicle Shipping and Really Didn't Want to Know After Reading All This

So your truck is built and you are now in what is known as "The Shipping System" (or "KZ status"). What happens next?

I typically note a few specific statuses when you are in KZ:

  • Awaiting Shipment - Your truck is in a shipping lot sitting and doing nothing but waiting.
  • Staged for Shipment - Your truck has been pulled to be moved. This means it is about to move to another shipping yard or about to head on to a truck/train/boat to head to you.
  • Truck Shuttle - Your truck is being moved by truck from one yard to another, or in rare circumstances, between a yard and your dealer.
  • En Route - Your truck is on a truck/train/boat and is no longer in the direct hands of Chrysler but in the hands of the hauler/train/boat company. It is moving from the plant/storage area to your dealer.
  • At final rail destination... - Your truck has traveled by rail or boat and is waiting to be picked up by a local hauler to be delivered to your dealer.
  • On truck to dealer - Your truck has left the storage yard and is on a truck to your dealer. Sometimes delivery is same day, sometimes it takes a few days depending on how many stops the truck made.
  • Delivered - Obvious :) (However in some rare occasions, a "paper" delivery occurs where someone marks off the wrong VIN either accidentally or deliberately). At this point your dealer should have the truck. They will need time to prep the vehicle and get it ready to deliver to you.

How and Why Things Ship The Way They Do

This refers to the Warren Truck Plant only as Mexico rather simple. Is the train heading to the right place or intermediate destination? Yes? Put it on."*

Ok. Let's get into the meat of the matter: Why do some people get trucks faster than others? It's complicated and I don't have all the answers but based on what I've heard and seen, here's my interpretation. If I get more data, I'll update this to incorporate it.

It depends on...

A. Where your truck is in the shipping lot.
B. Where the lot is in relation to C and D.
C. Is there a train going from that lot to your destination (or an interim point such as Chicago or Kansas City)?
D. Is there a truck going from the local lot to another lot (A) where there is expected to be a train going to your destination (or an interim point such as Chicago or Kansas City).
E. What's the dwell time of the order.

Let's go through them...

A. Trucks are packed into the shipping lots. Sometimes if C or D isn't available within a few hours or days, it gets parked and other trucks may get parked in front of it. That increases E.

B. The full output of the plant isn't stored locally. It is constantly being collected and shifted to other lots locally (Jefferson North, Java Yard, New Boston, Mack Yard, Connor Avenue, Toledo, Windsor, Flat Rock, etc). Trucks are coming off the line one every minute or so and where that truck needs to go needs to get determined quickly and constantly. There are a lot of people dedicated to answering that very question and executing it. Also, not all lots ship to all points. That leads to...

C. Train yards typically run in a general direction (E/W, N/S) and with an expected next destination. Trucks running E/W run from Toledo, Trucks running North/South leave from Jefferson North, East Coast is New Boston, West Coast can be Mack or Warren, I haven't fully got the pattern down yet). That means if a train needs to go west, it will go to a yard where trains head west. If a truck needs to go to Texas, it will head to a yard where trains go south.

This can also explain why a truck heading for Dallas will arrive much quicker than a train heading for Houston. There are two different rail lines serving those cities from Warren, MI. Dallas bound trucks head through Chicago then south. Houston bound trucks go another route through Indiana and Arkansas before hitting Westfield. I know some of you guys are rail people and can answer this question much better than I can.

If a truck needs to be shipped to a local dealer (let's say MI, ON, Chicago, Indiana, Ohio or even places in West Virginia and Pennsylvania), it could go to any of the yards depending on when a local delivery truck is going to run. Typically the non-Michigan orders head to a yard south of the plant such as Flat Rock or Toledo. That leads to...

D. See C. This boils down to truck availability more than anything else. If there are a lot of trucks going to head east, the car fleet is going to get them over to the east bound yards while the west/south bounders pile up.

E. Dwell time. This is how long your truck has been sitting in one place. The company doesn't make money sitting on trucks. Period. If this number gets too high, it shows up on reports and things start to move on it. I don't know what the number is. But, if there isn't an C. or D available, it can get pushed back in the lot waiting to get "unburied". The lot workers know about these trucks and work to get them out the door and off to some other B, C, or D it can send it to.

Does this answer your question on why a truck has been sitting in shipping so long? Not directly. What it does show is the careful orchestration of what use to be called "Logistics" and is now called "Supply Chain Management". This is the plant->dealer portion of the chain. It is very much like UPS or FedEx in terms of how the operation works. However, these are not small packages that can be stuffed in the corner of a bin then put on a 727 freighter and shipped. They require special handling, special trucks, and special trains. And if everyone wants use of those trucks and trains, it gets ugly.

* On a rare occasion, a truck is sent from the Saltillo plant to the border. I've seen it once as of this posting.
 
#6,066 ·
Everything You Wanted to Know About Vehicle Shipping and Really Didn't Want to Know After Reading All This

So your truck is built and you are now in what is known as "The Shipping System" (or "KZ status"). What happens next?

I typically note a few specific statuses when you are in KZ:

  • Awaiting Shipment - Your truck is in a shipping lot sitting and doing nothing but waiting.
  • Staged for Shipment - Your truck has been pulled to be moved. This means it is about to move to another shipping yard or about to head on to a truck/train/boat to head to you.
  • Truck Shuttle - Your truck is being moved by truck from one yard to another, or in rare circumstances, between a yard and your dealer.
  • En Route - Your truck is on a truck/train/boat and is no longer in the direct hands of Chrysler but in the hands of the hauler/train/boat company. It is moving from the plant/storage area to your dealer.
  • At final rail destination... - Your truck has traveled by rail or boat and is waiting to be picked up by a local hauler to be delivered to your dealer.
  • On truck to dealer - Your truck has left the storage yard and is on a truck to your dealer. Sometimes delivery is same day, sometimes it takes a few days depending on how many stops the truck made.
  • Delivered - Obvious :) (However in some rare occasions, a "paper" delivery occurs where someone marks off the wrong VIN either accidentally or deliberately). At this point your dealer should have the truck. They will need time to prep the vehicle and get it ready to deliver to you.

How and Why Things Ship The Way They Do

This refers to the Warren Truck Plant only as Mexico rather simple. Is the train heading to the right place or intermediate destination? Yes? Put it on."*

Ok. Let's get into the meat of the matter: Why do some people get trucks faster than others? It's complicated and I don't have all the answers but based on what I've heard and seen, here's my interpretation. If I get more data, I'll update this to incorporate it.

It depends on...

A. Where your truck is in the shipping lot.
B. Where the lot is in relation to C and D.
C. Is there a train going from that lot to your destination (or an interim point such as Chicago or Kansas City)?
D. Is there a truck going from the local lot to another lot (A) where there is expected to be a train going to your destination (or an interim point such as Chicago or Kansas City).
E. What's the dwell time of the order.

Let's go through them...

A. Trucks are packed into the shipping lots. Sometimes if C or D isn't available within a few hours or days, it gets parked and other trucks may get parked in front of it. That increases E.

B. The full output of the plant isn't stored locally. It is constantly being collected and shifted to other lots locally (Jefferson North, Java Yard, New Boston, Mack Yard, Connor Avenue, Toledo, Windsor, Flat Rock, etc). Trucks are coming off the line one every minute or so and where that truck needs to go needs to get determined quickly and constantly. There are a lot of people dedicated to answering that very question and executing it. Also, not all lots ship to all points. That leads to...

C. Train yards typically run in a general direction (E/W, N/S) and with an expected next destination. Trucks running E/W run from Toledo, Trucks running North/South leave from Jefferson North, East Coast is New Boston, West Coast can be Mack or Warren, I haven't fully got the pattern down yet). That means if a train needs to go west, it will go to a yard where trains head west. If a truck needs to go to Texas, it will head to a yard where trains go south.

This can also explain why a truck heading for Dallas will arrive much quicker than a train heading for Houston. There are two different rail lines serving those cities from Warren, MI. Dallas bound trucks head through Chicago then south. Houston bound trucks go another route through Indiana and Arkansas before hitting Westfield. I know some of you guys are rail people and can answer this question much better than I can.

If a truck needs to be shipped to a local dealer (let's say MI, ON, Chicago, Indiana, Ohio or even places in West Virginia and Pennsylvania), it could go to any of the yards depending on when a local delivery truck is going to run. Typically the non-Michigan orders head to a yard south of the plant such as Flat Rock or Toledo. That leads to...

D. See C. This boils down to truck availability more than anything else. If there are a lot of trucks going to head east, the car fleet is going to get them over to the east bound yards while the west/south bounders pile up.

E. Dwell time. This is how long your truck has been sitting in one place. The company doesn't make money sitting on trucks. Period. If this number gets too high, it shows up on reports and things start to move on it. I don't know what the number is. But, if there isn't an C. or D available, it can get pushed back in the lot waiting to get "unburied". The lot workers know about these trucks and work to get them out the door and off to some other B, C, or D it can send it to.

Does this answer your question on why a truck has been sitting in shipping so long? Not directly. What it does show is the careful orchestration of what use to be called "Logistics" and is now called "Supply Chain Management". This is the plant->dealer portion of the chain. It is very much like UPS or FedEx in terms of how the operation works. However, these are not small packages that can be stuffed in the corner of a bin then put on a 727 freighter and shipped. They require special handling, special trucks, and special trains. And if everyone wants use of those trucks and trains, it gets ugly.

* On a rare occasion, a truck is sent from the Saltillo plant to the border. I've seen it once as of this posting.
I think I found it. Hope this helps.
 
#6,059 ·
SPP,

I've got a question for you. Haven't been able to get a straight answer from my dealer. I have a VON for the truck i've ordered but the dealer seems to be waiting for allocation. If the dealer doesn't receive allocation before the cutoff date (getting near but the exact date is unknown from my understanding) for MY 2014 Ecodiesels, does that mean the truck wont get built? I guess what im wondering is would an order need a VIN assigned before the cutoff date to be built or would having a VON before the cutoff mean it will get built as long as the dealer receives allocation?

Thanks in advance!
 
#6,060 ·
You would need to...

  • Have a dealer with enough allocation
  • Hit D1
  • Have a build date prior to the build out date

Once you hit all three, you will have a 2014 truck built. Orders don't roll over to 2015 so you and your dealer would need to talk about what would happen. Allocations open up Friday for June and close out on the 10th. After that, the last allocation period is the July period. This means we're looking at August or so for the last of the 2014 builds so you have roughly 75 build days left between now and then. All tentative numbers and dates.
 
#6,061 ·
From what i understand,

The Ordering Bank is still open so you were able to place your order
They close the Ordering Bank for the model year a few weeks or more before they stop production for the model year. They shut down production for cleaning, lubricating robots & the chain that moves the line, as well as doing robot software updates, etc. Most production workers also take vacations during the shut down time, more training is also done during that time.

The new monthly allotments should come out around this weekend, either just before or just after.
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I don't think anyone knows for sure as yet, if there will be a July monthly allotment
I believe that there may possibly even be a August allotment, but don't count on it

EDIT:
I see SPP beat me to it :)
 
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